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NC's STAB IN THE BACK
« on: August 02, 2016, 18:05:55 »


NC's STAB IN THE BACK -
CONVO FROM NC's leadership less then 60 seconds from reset


Gen Eve [MOA] CEO

travis musgrat  [NC] DIR

This is the beginning of your direct message history with @travis musgrat.
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:41 PM
Hello
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:41 PM
o/
talking with lady now
we did mutual resets with HORDE and Spaceship for content sake
NO SOV ATTACKS
NO STRUCTURE ATTACKS
NO CLOAKY 24/7 CAMPS
NO ATTACKS IF STRATEGIC OPS UNDERWAY
soft reset for fun
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
We're not doing that
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
So we attack each other assets/sov etc?
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
Tes
Agreements never work well
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
Well I stand no chance fighting NC over POSs lol
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
To much bother to enforce
Well
^^
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
Especially after PL sold me some
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
if you want
I'll buy them
And transfer to you
When we leave north
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
So you wanna take ie buy our POSs?
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
yes
when we redoply in 2-3 months ill sell them back
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Wait - for 2-3 months - isnt it that too much work m8t?
I mean huge work
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
it takes 15min to rf 5 to kill
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
I stull dont understand - is this for income?
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
don't ask dumb questions
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
If so, I can pay you the income - It is so much work then
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
you know thats what they are for
then thats a nip
and ill still have mails from people shooting them
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:49 PM
I mean I will give you the moons but what I dont understand is the income for 2 months - I can pay you the income
So we dont go thourgh moon transfers
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:50 PM
transfer is no issue for me
thats actually easiest
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:50 PM
OK - so what isk we talking buying them from us
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:51 PM
if I'm going to sell them back I'd rather do tower cost
that seems most simple
so theres no goo costs to account for now and when i transfer back
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:53 PM
So we making agreement I sell you towers for tower costs - usually 1bil setups - so you take em all R64s - and you sell em back to me for 1bil towers once you leave
And I paid few couple moons R64s from PL for 20bil
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:53 PM
yes
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:55 PM
OK - can you give me couple of days - MOA we have 5 CEOs running it - so cant make choice right away
I will call meeting over this tomorrow eveneing
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
I'm having dudes chill now
so id want to make a decision with you now
so id want to make a decision with you now [not mistake - this is insisting immediate decision]
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:57 PM
It is fine - but I think we deserve 24hrs on this
I will probably hand you all moons np
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:59 PM
I'd rather have transfers started this evening
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 10:59 PM
This is a slap in the face m8t
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 10:59 PM
I'd rather have transfers started this evening
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:00 PM
Well I cant make that choice for MOA without meetig my side
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:01 PM
if you agree to sell for kit now dudes can transfer tomorrow
can you have a decision by tonight?
ustz?
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:05 PM
we are eu tz alliance
have 2 core ces online
if you feel I dont deserve 24hrs do what you have to do
but this will be total stab in the back
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:06 PM
Me buying them is me trying to not come accross that way diplomatically
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:06 PM
But it is what it is
I live here oever 10 years from old NC to many of its incarnationss, to goonies to today - so seen it all
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:07 PM
What do the 2 ceos on say?
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:08 PM
have not spoken yet
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:10 PM
You have always spoken for moa
why not now?
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:11 PM
I have 5 CEOs key that run moa - this is a heavy crucial decision and we do it over CEO meetings.  DOing this like this will be more damaging for us then losing any assets whatsoevr
I have obligations towards my peeps and dont wanna cross over that
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:12 PM
can you have a decision by 1700 tomorrow?
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:13 PM
I have pinged CEO meeting 1900eve tomorrow - so 19:30 will have you answer
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:13 PM
ok
19:35 we will have dreads or jf ready
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:14 PM
ok
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:15 PM
thanks
if you can have a poc ready and pm for each r64
Gen Eve [MOA] CEO - Yesterday at 11:26 PM
you interested in r64s only?
travis musgrat - Yesterday at 11:26 PM
on the alliance level yes
if you want to sell cads
i can get buyers as well for those

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MOA's RESPONSE TO ULTIMATUM
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NC.'s STAB IN THE BACK
From: Gen Eve
Sent: 2016.08.02 19:55
To: Mordus Angels,

Dear Mordus Killaz

I will start this alliance announcement by firstly quoting our MOA's decade old mission statement:

"MORDUS ANGELS IS AN INDEPENDENT MINDED ALLIANCE, PVP FOCUSED AND ORIENTED, WITH THE PURPOSE OF UNDERMINING OR DESTROYING THE CFC IMPERIALISTIC ORGANIZATION AND ITS ALLIES, OR ANY SIMILAR ENTITY THAT MAY COME ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. THE GAME CONTENT WE CREATE IS UNIQUE AND SUSTAINABLE THAT ENABLED US TO PROSPER AND ATTRACT LIKE MINDED PEOPLE AND CORPORATIONS. WE OFFER DOCTRINES, STRATEGIES AND INDEPENDENCE CREATION, THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE RESILIENT TO OUTSIDE PRESSURE BY ANY ENTITY DURING THE PAST 8 YEARS OF OUR EXISTENCE. OUR NULL SEC MORDUS' LEGION AND SISTERS OF EVE LIVING SPACES ALONG WITH SURROUNDING REGIONS IN THE NORTH, OFFER US WEALTH AND PVP ACTIVITIES TO MAXIMUM ABUNDANCE, AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO TAKE OR PARTICIPATE IN."

That said, now that the war against the CFC and Goonies has been WON the time has suddenly come for the "similar entity in the future" scenario.  As we have enjoyed the spoils of the war and divided the space in the north, one entity which thinks it is bigger and more powerful than the rest of us combined, has the natural right for all our riches in Pure Blind and further.

Yesterday , we have been reset by the NC. [Northern Coalition] effective  immediately.  We knew that will come so it was not a big deal.  What it is a big deal is what followed next and in the manner in which events  unfolded.  I was contacted by the NC top leadership demanding within seconds, yes convoyed within 60 seconds from reset,  to surrender all MOA assets ie income moons to NC free of charge, except for payment to be made for the cost of the POS mods only!  This comes after we have been the No1 alliance in the war against Goonies killing enemy sov structures, accommodating NC corps with multiple offices in PB for the invasion, Goonie spy intel, and after we being the No1 Goonies/CFC killers in the game for 3 years in the North;  facts well documented with links to all data in our public section of the forum.
http://mordusangels.com/index.php/board,1.0.html

This ultimatum was simply outrageous from many aspects.  NC has publicly declared their intentions that they are about to leave PB in matter of few months the latest.  They are simply bored with their game pay stile which is supers heavy dropping caps on even horde T1 cruiser fleets.  Therefore,  I have offered to pay them the entire income they would have been gaining from this ultimatum - They simply refused.  NC owns about 80% already of all income moons in Pure Blind.  They simply want to show who is the new boss burning all bridges in the process.

This is a stab in the back for Mordus Angels - plain and simple.

Naturally,  we as an alliance voted and decided to uphold the decade old culture and mission for what Mordus Angels stands for and what it is about.  We will go to war against NC just like we fought CFC and Goonies, and old NC. before that, and old old NC before that, except this fight  will be way easier than the rest of them combined.

Why?  Well for multiple reasons:
- Game mechanics are such that favors now null sec  inhabitants - if they decide to fight against MOA  for sov, we will welcome the fight open hands.  Supers and forming dozen fleets a day is something no elitist alliance can sustain and NC is not stupid to do so
- We have allies and agreements with all our neighbors in PB and around PB
- NC is 20times smaller than the CFC coalition was and is concentrated in one system only.  They do not posses thousands peeps in various fleets that can attack us in all time zones day after day.
-No hell caps are possible any more with our game play style and multiple clone locations, stations, systems.
-Just like with Goonies, we will NOT fight NC head on, we will simply KILL NC.
-And most importantly, we never forget.  NC will leave PB guaranteed 100% or die. They require content for their elitists game play style, something which they will never encounter in PB.  Declaring exit time frame strategy before even war started is moronic.

What will this mean for MOA peeps?
-for PVPrs/ FCs peeps - 5ZXX central zone of operations for all fleets unless declared otherwise.   Combat clones as per clones policy. SRP as usual.  Content overload.  Details on FC meeting to follow.
-for PVE indi peeps - very little change if any - business as usual.  NC will not grind line peeps  to fight for PB sov.

At the end, I must say one thing.  When Goonies did a MOA reset many years back they had a decency to announce their intention via proper diplomatic channels.  See link 
http://mordusangels.com/index.php/topic,18.0.html

The manner in which NC leadership behaved doing the rest and immediate ultimatum is so disgusting do not even deserve a comment.  See for yourself the ultimatum and make your decision if you will.  See link
http://mordusangels.com/index.php/topic,1816.msg15514.html#msg15514

Instead of us making plans to jointly deploy South as I suggested multiple times and fight the Goonies, preventing them to regroup, NC chose PL's path, which is burning all bridges.  By doing so they are indirectly helping and playing into Goonies hands to rebuild and re-conquer.

Enough said.  Lets have fun and give them hell!

Mordus Angels - Independence is a Luxury   


Gen

« Last Edit: August 02, 2016, 19:59:32 by [DTAS] Gen Eve »

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Re: NC's STAB IN THE BACK
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 09:26:56 »
So much to catch up on , but fair play gen I hope u gave them hell for this betrayal

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